[D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Shiba Haru » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:07 am

"And what is you take on Bushido? Are they loose guidelines or unbreakable rules?"
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Suzume Rin » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:13 am

Shiba Haru wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:07 am
"And what is you take on Bushido? Are they loose guidelines or unbreakable rules?"
Rin blinks, clearly surprised
"Unbreakable of course. Without bushido you're not a samurai, just a thug with a sword. How you act and why you act is the important part. Lotta problems wouldn't be problems if folks behaved proppa."
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Shiba Haru » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:41 am

"You know, the first time I ever talked to a Brotherhood monk she asked me, "Why do samurai need Bushido to be good and pure and righteous but Heimin do not?". I've been trying to find an answer to that question for five years. Don't get me wrong, I believe in Bushido but it is a paradox."
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Suzume Rin » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:15 am

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Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:41 am
"You know, the first time I ever talked to a Brotherhood monk she asked me, "Why do samurai need Bushido to be good and pure and righteous but Heimin do not?". I've been trying to find an answer to that question for five years. Don't get me wrong, I believe in Bushido but it is a paradox."
"It's a good question, but I have an answer, well, an answer for me anyway, different answers for different people. Heimins still got their obligations, and mostly it's honest work and respecting the order. But a samurai's got something much more dangerous, we got the swords. And we're the ones that tell people what to do. Farmer who ain't righteous, maybe he cheats folks at the market, maybe he don't treat his family right neither."
An unforgivable sin in the Sparrow's eyes

"But a wicked samurai? He can kill men, and not just one. Depending on the samurai it could be hundreds, thousands even. And who's gonna stop him? Ain't the farmers job, not like he's got the weapons to do so anyway. It's gonna have to be another samurai, one who is good and righteous since that's what it takes. Samurai wants to give up his swords and sit alone in a monastery all day, well he can be as impure as he wants if he isn't bothering no-one. But if you want to wear the swords you gotta carry that weight, no way round that."
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Shiba Haru » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:49 pm

Suzume Rin wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:15 am
"It's a good question, but I have an answer, well, an answer for me anyway, different answers for different people. Heimins still got their obligations, and mostly it's honest work and respecting the order. But a samurai's got something much more dangerous, we got the swords. And we're the ones that tell people what to do. Farmer who ain't righteous, maybe he cheats folks at the market, maybe he don't treat his family right neither."
An unforgivable sin in the Sparrow's eyes

"But a wicked samurai? He can kill men, and not just one. Depending on the samurai it could be hundreds, thousands even. And who's gonna stop him? Ain't the farmers job, not like he's got the weapons to do so anyway. It's gonna have to be another samurai, one who is good and righteous since that's what it takes. Samurai wants to give up his swords and sit alone in a monastery all day, well he can be as impure as he wants if he isn't bothering no-one. But if you want to wear the swords you gotta carry that weight, no way round that."
"A good answer I think and I wish I had thought of it though I'm sure the monk would have had some sort of rebuttal, as monks are want to do. I wonder if one of the upcoming tests will give us a chance to debate with a monk about such things, I may have to steal your answer." He said with a smile.
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Suzume Rin » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:12 pm

Shiba Haru wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:49 pm

"A good answer I think and I wish I had thought of it though I'm sure the monk would have had some sort of rebuttal, as monks are want to do. I wonder if one of the upcoming tests will give us a chance to debate with a monk about such things, I may have to steal your answer." He said with a smile.
"Well it's free for use Haru-san, not gonna claim that answer as property or anything."
Rin looks a little embarrassed.

"We just got strong views on that sort of thing in the Sparrow. It sounded like the Shiba think about that sort of stuff pretty hard?"
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Shiba Haru » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:33 pm

Suzume Rin wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:12 pm
"Well it's free for use Haru-san, not gonna claim that answer as property or anything."
Rin looks a little embarrassed.

"We just got strong views on that sort of thing in the Sparrow. It sounded like the Shiba think about that sort of stuff pretty hard?"
"Not as much as you think, our training focuses more on the lessons of Shinsei and theology. We don't IGNORE Bushido nor do we only pay lip service to it but we don't not give it the same focus that it sounds like your lessons do or the Lion's certainly do. I think I give it so much thought because I have trained with the Akodo so I have been exposed more to their views. It makes me curious about how the other clans view the Tao and Bushido and even things like The Sword versus Niten."
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Suzume Rin » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:52 pm

Shiba Haru wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:33 pm

"Not as much as you think, our training focuses more on the lessons of Shinsei and theology. We don't IGNORE Bushido nor do we only pay lip service to it but we don't not give it the same focus that it sounds like your lessons do or the Lion's certainly do. I think I give it so much thought because I have trained with the Akodo so I have been exposed more to their views. It makes me curious about how the other clans view the Tao and Bushido and even things like The Sword versus Niten."
"That makes sense, you've seen how two different clans do it, probably makes for an interesting view of each."
Scrunching up her nose in thought

"Lion don't care much for the Tao, right?"
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Shiba Haru » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:44 pm

Suzume Rin wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:52 pm
"That makes sense, you've seen how two different clans do it, probably makes for an interesting view of each."
Scrunching up her nose in thought

"Lion don't care much for the Tao, right?"
"No they don't, they focus on ancestor worship believing that as they did we should do in all things. While they are not wrong in this it is a rather stagnant way of living and viewing the world I would say. In my experience there is a lot of wisdom that is shared between the Tao and Leadership and the Code of Bushido and The Sword so it is worth reading all of it."
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Suzume Rin » Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:55 am

Shiba Haru wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:44 pm

"No they don't, they focus on ancestor worship believing that as they did we should do in all things. While they are not wrong in this it is a rather stagnant way of living and viewing the world I would say. In my experience there is a lot of wisdom that is shared between the Tao and Leadership and the Code of Bushido and The Sword so it is worth reading all of it."
Rin unconsciously shakes her head. Not caring for the Tao? Some people's clans.

"I've never read Leadership, but I reckon I should. You're saying there's a whole buncha the same ideas across all of those?"
Thinking
"Maybe everyone's just coming at the same truth from different sides?"
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Shiba Haru » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:24 am

Suzume Rin wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:55 am
Rin unconsciously shakes her head. Not caring for the Tao? Some people's clans.

"I've never read Leadership, but I reckon I should. You're saying there's a whole buncha the same ideas across all of those?"
Thinking
"Maybe everyone's just coming at the same truth from different sides?"
"That is my belief, you have really look for some of the common themes but they are there; universal truths explained in different ways. I would be happy to loan you my copy of Leadership if you would like to read it."
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Suzume Rin » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:32 am

Shiba Haru wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:24 am

"That is my belief, you have really look for some of the common themes but they are there; universal truths explained in different ways. I would be happy to loan you my copy of Leadership if you would like to read it."
"Oh you would? I should probably get some more study in tonight, test of the warrior might just be the test of Leadership! I'd look foolish turning up and not knowing a single word."
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Shiba Haru » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:43 am

Suzume Rin wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:32 am
"Oh you would? I should probably get some more study in tonight, test of the warrior might just be the test of Leadership! I'd look foolish turning up and not knowing a single word."
"I'll have it sent to your room as soon as we get back." He said happy to be useful. "I hope to gather the writings of all the greats from the birth of the Empire, Mirumoto, Bayushi-kami, Hida-kami if he wrote anything. I should ask Mitsuko about that."
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Suzume Rin » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:57 am

Shiba Haru wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:43 am

"I'll have it sent to your room as soon as we get back." He said happy to be useful. "I hope to gather the writings of all the greats from the birth of the Empire, Mirumoto, Bayushi-kami, Hida-kami if he wrote anything. I should ask Mitsuko about that."
"That's really sweet of you. Promise I won't get any dirt on it, and it'll be ready to go right back to you afterwards."

Raising an eyebrow
"Now yah mention it Hida-no-kami musta written something down...but I've never read it. Hope it wasn't something important, if he knew the secrets to yam farming and none of us had check that'll be embarrassing."
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Shiba Haru » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:05 am

Suzume Rin wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:57 am
"That's really sweet of you. Promise I won't get any dirt on it, and it'll be ready to go right back to you afterwards."

Raising an eyebrow
"Now yah mention it Hida-no-kami musta written something down...but I've never read it. Hope it wasn't something important, if he knew the secrets to yam farming and none of us had check that'll be embarrassing."
Haru chuckled. "You really like yams huh?"
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Re: [D6, EA Expecting] Trotting along

Post by Suzume Rin » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:43 am

Shiba Haru wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:05 am

Haru chuckled. "You really like yams huh?"
"It's an acquired taste...you start off not liking yams. But if all you got to eat are yams...well, choosing to like 'em is the safer option."
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